What is a Good Continuous Low Speed

Why slow speed and high speed continuous shooting?

msouris2003

Why slow speed and high speed continuous shooting?

Under what circumstances would one be selected over the other? Why not just use high speed all the time? Is autofocus more consistent or better with one compared to the other?
Can some one enlighten me?
Thank you.

Re: Why slow speed and high speed continuous shooting?

msouris2003 wrote:

Under what circumstances would one be selected over the other? Why not just use high speed all the time? Is autofocus more consistent or better with one compared to the other?

It's about the amount of shots that you might need in a sequence. If you have fast paced action with maybe important motion in the subject to be captured at just the right time (say a galloping horse) then the high FPS will be required if you have medium paced action (a runner on a marathon) then the 3fps will suffice nicely.

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I was set up with two camera (1D MkII's) to photograph a building implosion. The warning horn sounded and I hit the remote cable release on the camera. It was set to hi-speed motor drive. I held the button down and it just blasted away. Anyone see where I'm going with this story? I doubt it.

What actually happened is that the camera blasted off a ton of frames, it caught the initial blast, the smoke coming out the sides of the building, and then...the buffer jammed up. The building was still hovering motionless in the air when the buffer clogged, then, as it was taking it's sweet time clearing out, the building dropped in slow motion as the camera just sat there laughing at me. The building was a pile of rubble before the camera would release and fire another shot. Hi-speed motor drive was mucho overkill for this subject.

Luckily, or based on experience and preparedness, I had the other camera set to low-speed motor drive. While the first camera was screwing me I was able to get good images on the second camera.

But for subjects like hockey I typically use hi-speed.
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hobie346 • New Member • Posts: 17

Re: Take it easy.......

I've been shooting with slow speed and high speed with my 7D and with a 300X card as well as a 600X card. With high speed shooting you better have a 600X card or you'll definitely have a buffer stall after X number of shots (in my case ~ 12 shoots). With a 600X card I'm able to shoot till the card is full without one buffer stall.

mark currier wrote:

I was set up with two camera (1D MkII's) to photograph a building implosion. The warning horn sounded and I hit the remote cable release on the camera. It was set to hi-speed motor drive. I held the button down and it just blasted away. Anyone see where I'm going with this story? I doubt it.

What actually happened is that the camera blasted off a ton of frames, it caught the initial blast, the smoke coming out the sides of the building, and then...the buffer jammed up. The building was still hovering motionless in the air when the buffer clogged, then, as it was taking it's sweet time clearing out, the building dropped in slow motion as the camera just sat there laughing at me. The building was a pile of rubble before the camera would release and fire another shot. Hi-speed motor drive was mucho overkill for this subject.

Luckily, or based on experience and preparedness, I had the other camera set to low-speed motor drive. While the first camera was screwing me I was able to get good images on the second camera.

But for subjects like hockey I typically use hi-speed.
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tomfs • Forum Member • Posts: 57

Re: Why slow speed and high speed continuous shooting?

On the 40D at slow speed the mirror will come down and focus between each shot. At high speed the mirror stays up so no focus is possible between each shot, That is why it's faster.
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rdspear • Veteran Member • Posts: 4,609

Re: Why slow speed and high speed continuous shooting?

So you don't fill the buffer in 3 seconds of continuous shooting and would rather have 5-6 seconds of more widely spaced shots. Or you're low on card space (though that's a lame reason these days)

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mmullen • Veteran Member • Posts: 4,291

Re: Why slow speed and high speed continuous shooting?

tomfs wrote:

On the 40D at slow speed the mirror will come down and focus between each shot. At high speed the mirror stays up so no focus is possible between each shot, That is why it's faster.

Where did you get that idea?

The mirror comes down in both high and low speed continuous shooting modes. Otherwise you could not track moving subjects in high speed mode which I do all the time.

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erikstefan • Contributing Member • Posts: 821

Re: Why slow speed and high speed continuous shooting?

Buffer limited

Re: Take it easy.......

I was shooting in RAW and with the fastest cards available at the time. (2005)

hobie346 wrote:

I've been shooting with slow speed and high speed with my 7D and with a 300X card as well as a 600X card. With high speed shooting you better have a 600X card or you'll definitely have a buffer stall after X number of shots (in my case ~ 12 shoots). With a 600X card I'm able to shoot till the card is full without one buffer stall.

mark currier wrote:

I was set up with two camera (1D MkII's) to photograph a building implosion. The warning horn sounded and I hit the remote cable release on the camera. It was set to hi-speed motor drive. I held the button down and it just blasted away. Anyone see where I'm going with this story? I doubt it.

What actually happened is that the camera blasted off a ton of frames, it caught the initial blast, the smoke coming out the sides of the building, and then...the buffer jammed up. The building was still hovering motionless in the air when the buffer clogged, then, as it was taking it's sweet time clearing out, the building dropped in slow motion as the camera just sat there laughing at me. The building was a pile of rubble before the camera would release and fire another shot. Hi-speed motor drive was mucho overkill for this subject.

Luckily, or based on experience and preparedness, I had the other camera set to low-speed motor drive. While the first camera was screwing me I was able to get good images on the second camera.

But for subjects like hockey I typically use hi-speed.
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SNGX1327 • Veteran Member • Posts: 5,186

Re: Why slow speed and high speed continuous shooting?

i have a 20D which shoots... 5fps? and at times it is too much for me. yes it's fast, but it's wasteful. often times i will take a series of shots, and then go through and delete a bunch of frames in between. i don't know how fast the cameras are, but for the sake of argument let's say L is 4fps and H is 8fps.

if you shoot continually for 3 seconds, that's 12 pictures vs. 24 pictures.

not to mention the fact that the buffer will get full faster when shooting faster.

SNGX1327 • Veteran Member • Posts: 5,186

Re: Why slow speed and high speed continuous shooting?

tomfs wrote:

On the 40D at slow speed the mirror will come down and focus between each shot. At high speed the mirror stays up so no focus is possible between each shot, That is why it's faster.

i don't think that's true.

GammyKnee • Contributing Member • Posts: 974

Re: Why slow speed and high speed continuous shooting?

All of the above, plus maybe when you're using (external) flash. You might want 2-3 shots in quick succession but not so quick that the flash either can't keep up or would be burned out in no time if it did.

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msouris2003

? difference in autofocus reliability

Thank you, all.
Is there a difference in autofocus reliability with low speed vs. high speed?

Cal Dawson • Veteran Member • Posts: 4,810

Do you think...

the camera was not "Screwing" you but that you failed to understand the limitations (They are clearly stated in the specs. Even in slow mode you can fill a buffer fairly quick (Shoot Raw). High speed is for Bursts of action not sustained, you would have been better off shooting a movie cam....

mark currier wrote:

I was set up with two camera (1D MkII's) to photograph a building implosion. The warning horn sounded and I hit the remote cable release on the camera. It was set to hi-speed motor drive. I held the button down and it just blasted away. Anyone see where I'm going with this story? I doubt it.

What actually happened is that the camera blasted off a ton of frames, it caught the initial blast, the smoke coming out the sides of the building, and then...the buffer jammed up. The building was still hovering motionless in the air when the buffer clogged, then, as it was taking it's sweet time clearing out, the building dropped in slow motion as the camera just sat there laughing at me. The building was a pile of rubble before the camera would release and fire another shot. Hi-speed motor drive was mucho overkill for this subject.

Luckily, or based on experience and preparedness, I had the other camera set to low-speed motor drive. While the first camera was screwing me I was able to get good images on the second camera.

But for subjects like hockey I typically use hi-speed.
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Mark Currier

Esbutt • Regular Member • Posts: 457

Re: Why slow speed and high speed continuous shooting?

A lot of good points here. I also use the lower burst rate when I'm shooting static subjects at low light levels which need low shutter speeds. Shooting a burst almost always gives me a sharper second image compared to the first shot because it doesn't suffer from camera shake caused by me releasing the shutter.

Not ideal but it helps when my technique fails me.

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dmaxk • Regular Member • Posts: 258

Re: Take it easy.......

hobie346 wrote:

I've been shooting with slow speed and high speed with my 7D and with a 300X card as well as a 600X card. With high speed shooting you better have a 600X card or you'll definitely have a buffer stall after X number of shots (in my case ~ 12 shoots). With a 600X card I'm able to shoot till the card is full without one buffer stall.

Hobie, are you shooting RAW? I'd think even with a 600X card it'd fill up pretty quick in RAW. In JPEG, however, you can, as you've discovered, shoot forever.

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David

Was aiming for a more anecdotal version of my story, not meaning that my camera was literally "screwing" me. Trying to make a point on the difference between the two, which you obviously did not discern ('failed' to understand). Don't feel bad, my writing style is not for everybody.

Cal Dawson wrote:

the camera was not "Screwing" you but that you failed to understand the limitations (They are clearly stated in the specs. Even in slow mode you can fill a buffer fairly quick (Shoot Raw). High speed is for Bursts of action not sustained,

Thanks for the tip Biff.

you would have been better off shooting a movie cam....

Had that too. Will post the link to the video tomorrow when I find it.

mark currier wrote:

I was set up with two camera (1D MkII's) to photograph a building implosion. The warning horn sounded and I hit the remote cable release on the camera. It was set to hi-speed motor drive. I held the button down and it just blasted away. Anyone see where I'm going with this story? I doubt it.

What actually happened is that the camera blasted off a ton of frames, it caught the initial blast, the smoke coming out the sides of the building, and then...the buffer jammed up. The building was still hovering motionless in the air when the buffer clogged, then, as it was taking it's sweet time clearing out, the building dropped in slow motion as the camera just sat there laughing at me. The building was a pile of rubble before the camera would release and fire another shot. Hi-speed motor drive was mucho overkill for this subject.

Luckily, or based on experience and preparedness, I had the other camera set to low-speed motor drive. While the first camera was screwing me I was able to get good images on the second camera.

But for subjects like hockey I typically use hi-speed.
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